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22 Mar 2018 00:54 - 22 Mar 2018 00:56 #53344 by julius
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Hi all,

sometimes, when I need to dig deeply into a plastic material, the spindle starts rattling when I reach a certain deep, typically 15mm.
Seems that the milling is not perfectly perpendicular to the table, with a little inclination toward the positive direction of the Y-axis.

I'm not an artist, but I will try to explain what happens, for example when milling a cylindrical shape, in the drawing below (inclination is exaggerated).

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When the bit is on one side the spindle starts vibrating and noising, when the bit slowly goes on the other side the vibration ends.

The spindle is ok, no run-out. Also the spindle-holder is firmly attached (I cannot move it by shaking it with my hands). All seems "solid".
Somebody else is facing this problem?

I need some trick to slightly regulate the inclination of the spindle in order to get it perpendicular to the Y-axis (the X-axis is ok).
What about adding some "material" between the base of the spindle and the collar to modify the inclination? But I cannot evaluate the thickness of the material to make the spindle perpendicular...
I need a way to add a micro-metric correction, but I have no idea how to achieve this... :(

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25 Mar 2018 11:47 #53368 by Nonaga
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Hi Julius,
google nach Unterlagsfolie, Lehrenband, Fühlerlehre.
Damit kann man die Spindel ausrichten.
Das Steppi ist allerdings nicht so steif und starr, das es dadurch überall "perpendicular" ist.

Eine andere Möglichkeit währe, es stufenweise herzustellen.
Beispiel ein 10mm Loch ist von 0mm Tiefe bis 10 mm Tiefe 10mm im Durchmesser.
Von 10mm Tiefe bis 20 mm Tiefe 9.9mm im Durchmesser.
etc.

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25 Mar 2018 12:36 - 25 Mar 2018 12:40 #53369 by stachel
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You can loosen the screws from the X-profile.
Screws are 6mm, holes are 7mm.
So you can try to slightly "twist" the profile to reach perfect 90°

But you have to take care; if you loosen the srews an re-tighten them,
the lead screw might get tensed and machine might "stall".

You should try to reach both (Z = perpendicular, lead srew = not tensed).

Gruß Martin

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26 Mar 2018 10:58 #53381 by julius
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Nonaga wrote: Das Steppi ist allerdings nicht so steif und starr, das es dadurch überall "perpendicular" ist.

Ja, jetzt kenne ich das... :(
Das Problem hat nach der Montage des Portalerhöhung zugenommen. Bevor hatte ich nur etwas minimalen Lärm.

Nonaga wrote: Hi Julius,
Eine andere Möglichkeit währe, es stufenweise herzustellen.
Beispiel ein 10mm Loch ist von 0mm Tiefe bis 10 mm Tiefe 10mm im Durchmesser.
Von 10mm Tiefe bis 20 mm Tiefe 9.9mm im Durchmesser.
etc.

Das ist eine gute Idee... mmmmh... ich muss darhüber denken... ;)

Uh!
Vielleicht meinst du etwas wie 10 mm im Durchmesser für die erste Stufe, dann 10,1 für die zweite Stufe (schau mein Bild )?

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26 Mar 2018 11:00 #53383 by julius
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stachel wrote: But you have to take care; if you loosen the srews an re-tighten them,
the lead screw might get tensed and machine might "stall".

You should try to reach both (Z = perpendicular, lead srew = not tensed).

I was thinking about that, but I have not considered the problem with the lead screw... thanks a lot for warning me abut that! ;)

I will report here my results.

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