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03 Nov 2016 09:15 - 03 Nov 2016 09:18 #38998 von bart@caminos
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Hello,

I am Bart and a new user.
840 - HF - VCarve Desktop - WinPC-NC USB

We are experiencing an issue with exporting tool paths in the correct post processor for WinPC-NC USB.

What is the correct post processor to use in our case?
We’ve unsuccessfully experimented with a few formats and the support team from Stepcraft advised to use Mach 2/3 Arcs (mm).
However this rescales the design (scale factor is set to 1 XYZ) (see picture). The rescaling is very obvious in the pictures.
Also when testing the machine it appears that the Z axis is inverted which resulted in a broken bit ...

Can you advise which post processor to use ?

Apparently the designers from Vectric are working on an new post processor however I've purchased everything from Stepcraft and assumed it would be compatible.

Best regards,

Bart from Belgium

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Stepcraft 2/840 - HF - WinPC-NC - VCarve Desktop
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05 Nov 2016 10:41 #39095 von bart@caminos
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Update,

The people from WinPc have indicated that the scaling of the toolpath is only a display problem and it does not effect the toolpath.

They also suggested to use the FLEXICAM ATC (mm) post processor which I am testing currently.

Bart

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05 Nov 2016 15:43 #39100 von kilroy2
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Hi Bart,

What's wrong with WinPC-NC ATC Arcs mm (*.nc)

Kilroy
(Also from Belgium)

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06 Nov 2016 10:16 #39113 von bart@caminos
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Hey Kilroy,

As mentioned the Z axis is inverted when I use WinPC-NC ATC Arcs mm (*.nc).
Which is very strange because when I test the WinPc software with the provided test files it works perfect.

When I use FLEXICAM ATC (mm) it works perfect.

From where ate you In BE maybe we can exchange some idea's.

Bart from Belgium, Tielt-Winge

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06 Nov 2016 10:56 #39121 von ubo
If the Z axis is in the wrong direction, you can invert it here.



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Uwe

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06 Nov 2016 11:05 #39124 von bart@caminos
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Ubo,

Thanks for your reply.

Yes thats possible I know of the possibility.
However we would need to remember to do this every time we use the system (multiple users).
Knowing myself I can guaranty that I would forget it from time to time resulting is tool and material breakage.

So yes it's possible but not a perfect solution.
So far the tests wit the flexicam post prosessor where very good and we can just load the file and start working.

Bart

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06 Nov 2016 11:49 #39130 von CNCMiller
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Bart,

I use Aspire but the postprocessing is the same as VCarve.
Like Udo said check the invert Z-coordinates when using the DIN/ISO data format.
I save my work in "WinPC-NC ATC Arcs mm (*.nc)" and works fine for the Stepcraft.

Suc6

SC 1/420 + Gantry extension, Kress 1050 FME-P, WinPC-NC USB v3.40/43,
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07 Apr 2017 10:55 #46190 von Teamtrapped
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Hi Bart,

It seems like we are experiencing similar problems.

If I open my exported file from VCarve in WinPc-NC USB none of the tool settings are imported. I tried different postprocessing files but without any succes so far. I assume it is not intended to manually enter all tool settings each time I open a new toolpath from VCarve.

Maybe I'm missing something?

Jeroen

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07 Apr 2017 11:18 #46192 von Teamtrapped
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Small mistake, We use the Cut2D desktop software and not the VCarve desktop software. I don't know if this is a big difference?

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07 Apr 2017 11:38 #46194 von CNCMiller
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Jeroen,

You will never see you tool settings in the WinPC program, they are generated within the G-code and will be read by WinPC.
You can see them by opening the editor (F7).

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07 Apr 2017 14:33 #46199 von Teamtrapped
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Thank you CNCMiller!

When I press (F7) I do see all settings from Cut2D.
Ready for testing! I will keep you posted!

Jeroen

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07 Apr 2017 15:07 #46201 von Teamtrapped
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CNCMiller,

status: WinPC-NC USB does import all tool setting.

but it seems like the Z-axis is inverted like in Bart's case. When I start the program the spindel first dives into the material. second the spindel goes back up and begins to spin.

I tested the Flexicam ATC (mm) and Mach2/3 Arcs (mm) postprocessing.

Any ideas are more then welcome!

Jeroen

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07 Apr 2017 15:54 #46203 von CNCMiller
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Can you send me all your settings in WinPC-USB?
By mail is also fine and Dutch is perfect:)

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10 Apr 2017 18:30 #46275 von CNCMiller
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Teamtrapped Jeroen,
check your private message :)

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16 Apr 2017 09:44 #46399 von HUGONNIER
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Hello

Newbie in cnc with a 820 in USB and WIN PC USB
I have the same problem of spindel diving in the first place
Inverting Z axes doesn"t seem to solve the case

Any solutions find ?

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16 Apr 2017 10:33 #46400 von CNCMiller
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Hello Hugonier,

If you don't tell us what setting or what pre-processor you use we can't tell.
Then our guess is as good as yours.

But for start this, if you use the DIN/ISO format you should invert the Z-coordinates and use preferably WinPC-NC ATC Arcs mm (*.nc)

suc6 and happy easter

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28 Apr 2018 11:22 #53605 von jefmuis
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I am completly new at CNC

When I start the file the spindel (z axes f)irst dives into the material.
i am using cut2d desktop version and winpc-nusb with toolpath
save my work in "WinPC-NC ATC Arcs mm (*.nc)"
other files from the startup CD works ok
what is wrong ?
Thanks

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28 Apr 2018 15:03 #53606 von drilldevil
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uploading the gcode-file could help....

by the way:

- did you make a reference run?
- did you "zero" your material?
- where is your 0-point in the gcode file ? is it similar with she settings in winpc-nc ? ("0" can be on machine table or top of the material)
- did you make measure run with your tool?
- is your safety height correct?
- are he units used in cut2d and winpcnc the same ? ( both set to mm and mm/sec)

you see there are lot of incluence parameters and possiblilities to make a fault.

Andreas

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27 Jun 2018 17:49 #54084 von Luciano56
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Good evening, my name is Luciano and I write from Italy.
  I have a stepcraft 840/2 with which I'm trying to get a 10mm plywood grating. The original design made with VCarve Pro then postprocessor for WinPc-nc USB. When processing starts with WinPc, the tool sinks into the material beyond the set limit. I reset the zero point of the z axis to zero. I send you the GCode of the file in question. Thank you for any clarification.

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14 Sep 2019 01:11 #57298 von Yorgo
Hoi Bart!
Hoe is dit probleem opgelost geraakt?
Ik lijk momenteel dezelfde te ondervinden, Via Aspire naar Winpc-nc gestuurd als Winpc-nc Arc.nc bestand en zelfs na meermaals checken of alle instellingen goed zijn boort het in het machinebed.

Nog niet verder getest omdat ik eerst op dit Forum naar antwoorden kwam zoeken, en bij deze kwam ik bij de jouwe terecht!
alvast bedankt!
Yorgo
Antwerpen,Belgie

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