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12 Dez 2015 22:25 #28112 von Denus
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Maybe not the right place, but what about the eurotool24 G-500 miller?
It's a very nice piece of hardware, with 4 x Toshiba Nema 23 stepper motors, ball-screw SFK 1204 etc.
The price is ok too: around 1100,- without spindle.

The only "issue" is the missing t-slot table, but this can be found elsewhere for +/- 200,- euro.

I love my StepCraft 420/2 but it's really too light, the G-500 isn't a professional machine either, but has stronger motors (2 x on the X axis!), ball-screw and is nicely build (all aluminium parts). I would add some limit switches to it, but that's doable.

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13 Dez 2015 09:54 #28122 von peterg1000
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That looks mouthwatering - proper ballscrewa and linear bearings, things I wish the Stepcraft had !!

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13 Dez 2015 12:11 - 13 Dez 2015 12:12 #28128 von Denus
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My idea too.

As for the t-slot table (400 x 600 according to the seller): it can be found here: link

I'm really thinking of selling my SC 420/2 and purchasing this one instead.
Alexander Krug from eurotools24 is giving a reply on every question within 30 minutes (during the weekend) which is a good point too.

Of course: this machine needs a proper base and limit switches, but on the other hand, that shows how customisable it is.

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06 Jan 2016 21:37 #28975 von Worldhusky
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Denus schrieb: ... but what about the eurotool24 G-500 miller?
It's a very nice piece of hardware, with 4 x Toshiba Nema 23 stepper motors, ball-screw SFK 1204 etc.
The price is ok too: around 1100,- without spindle.

Interesting!



Denus schrieb: I'm really thinking of selling my SC 420/2 and purchasing this one instead.


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09 Jan 2016 18:06 #29055 von WolframSlides
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Hmm.. I like the stronger motors and ballscrews, but a couple of things would concern me. The machine frame doesn't look as rigid as the Stepcraft 2, and the quoted speed of 2,000mm/min is very slow - I run my SC840 at 5,000mm/min rapids, and it can comfortably cut foam with a dragknife at that speed.

That being said, I do wish that the ballscrew option for the Stepcraft had materialised - particularly for the Z axis to make good quality 3D milling possible.

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09 Jan 2016 20:53 #29058 von Nonaga
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Nice description. I looking for on ebay. The pictures say all.
I never change my steppi against this.
More precision - more pay.

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11 Jan 2016 09:16 #29109 von Chillimonster
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Pity they dont make a slightly larger one (SC 840 size)

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15 Jan 2016 21:53 #29285 von Denus
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I had a lot of fun with the StepCraft, but I was kind of disappointed about the Nema 17 motors (especially for the 600 and 840 models!).

So yeah, I sold my 420/2 and purchased the G-500 frame (1100,- including the Kress 800, no delivery costs).
The frame is rock solid, ball screws all around and 4 x Nema 23 step motors and a TB6560 4V3 controller card.

This thing is massive comparing to the 420!

I made a concept for a (tooling aluminium) bed, and a local metal worker made it for me: check out the beast!
I'm now installing all the electronics in a 19" case, the shielded cables are already done.






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15 Jan 2016 22:00 #29286 von Denus
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Btw: this machine can reach much higher speeds easily.
The seller just want the customers to stay safe and use lower speed settings.

I can tell it moves way faster than the 420 anyway.

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16 Jan 2016 09:35 #29293 von Worldhusky
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Very nice! I like your beast and thanks for sharing that. I'm going to send you an e-mail .... :whistle:

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16 Jan 2016 14:21 - 16 Jan 2016 14:22 #29300 von jvalencia
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I own the 840/2 and I have to say the Nema 17 motors work great. I've cut 25mm solid wood and I haven't had any problem at all.

I don't know for metal alloys though.

One good thing about Nema 17 is that when you crash the tool by accident, the motors stop as soon as it happens and you save the tool. With bigger motors the tool will simply break due to the big force.

(this happened to me a few times already)

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16 Jan 2016 16:14 #29305 von jonalm
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The G-500 does look my solid than the stepcraft which would be better if it had two motors each side for the y axis.
interesting to see a customer comparison from Denus having owned both.

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17 Jan 2016 01:58 #29333 von Denus
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I don't expect any of you to follow my steps: the Stepcraft is just fine, and I've enjoyed mine.

This is for me a little step further, and what I like the most are the two motors mounted directly on the X-axis, but I'm also very pleased with the ball-screw all around.
But it's not a system ready-to-go and require more work than a Stepcraft machine, even the kit version.

I'm now installing the electronics, and that takes a lot of time...

As for the risk of breaking a tool: it doesn't matter if it's a nema 17 or a nema 23, the bit can snap but will never stop the motors...
I don't know how that's even possible. (or there's a severe issue!)

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17 Jan 2016 09:03 #29335 von jvalencia
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Let us know how it works ;)

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17 Jan 2016 15:21 #29364 von Chillimonster
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Whats the maximum cutting size on this model?

I could do with something of this build type that is bigger than the SC600, and nearing SC840 size.

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23 Jan 2016 14:10 #29575 von Denus
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Well, the G-500 has a work area which is X-500.0 mm Y-360.0 mm, so not that large, but large enough for me.


The enclosure is almost ready, I'll have to finish the shielded cables, and then I should be ready to begin the first tests.




Don't buy this kit if you're afraid of figuring things out by yourself !!

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17 Feb 2016 18:13 #30786 von Denus
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I didn't go much further since I've a busy job atm.

But: the machine received some major updates as the side panels and back panel made of hard aluminium instead of the standard plastic sheets. The machine is now as sturdy as possible, and very (very!!!) heavy.

Some other updates will come such as the end-stop switches (I have the material and custom made aluminium supports for it) and heavier and larger rails for the cables.

Other than that, I can tell the spindle is responding well to the relay through UCCNC, the emergency stop is working great too.

I will also add a large led-ring underneath the spindle for better visibility.










That's all for now folks!


Ps: this is not an anti-StepCraft campagne, I love the brand but moved to something else, that's all.

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01 Mär 2016 19:52 #31491 von Denus
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Check out my aluminium vacuum hose holder, I'm quite happy with it!





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01 Mär 2016 20:09 #31493 von peti-digital
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Hi, I like this. Is this your Design or a commercial one? Best Regards, Peter

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01 Mär 2016 21:27 #31504 von surfincool
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nice...
do u have a video to see this thing in action?

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