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28 Jul 2015 10:43 #23842 von dxtinct
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Hi.

I'm stuggling for some hours now and feel this software winpc-nc usb 2.50/02 is really bad.

I'm importing dwg from a lot of places.
I convert them to r12 DXF files, and after this either the software cannot load the DXF.

One example attached a dxf that open but I can't see nothing in this shitty software.
Just can't understand why such a nice company like stepcraft has embraced such a patetic piese of garbage..


I can only draw by hand some cad files and then with this I can import them to WinPC-nc

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28 Jul 2015 11:16 #23844 von ThomasDbg
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Good morning, dxtinct!

Please be sure, WinPCNC is not that garbage, You think at the Moment. I think, in Your workflow soemthing is going wrong.

Would You be so Kind, to post one of Your unreadable dxf files to check, what ist wrong or where the error is?

Thanks a lot.

I am really sure, Your machine will do what it is for, also as many many other sold and working STEPCRAFT mills!!!

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28 Jul 2015 11:31 #23845 von alpenkreuzer
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I can assure you that the software - even version 2.50 - is a really good software and working very well - if you feed it with the right version of CAM-file.

Sometimes it depends on the converting software to use the right "dialect" to achieve the readable dxf-file for Win-PCNC.

To understand your problem correct, it is not helpful only shouting "bad software". You should inform us with following details:

- software used to generate dwg-file
- software used for converting dwg into dxf
- exact software version of WIN-PCNC (i.e. "Starter version" or full USB-version)
- Starter version only accepts plt-files
- full version (USB or parallel) will understand dxf-files

if nothing can be seen after opening a dxf-file, it seems that you own the restricted (and cheap) version of WIN-PCNC.

Unless you have supported us with sufficient facts and informations you should stop to ennoy us with lack of objectivity ...

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28 Jul 2015 12:31 #23848 von dxtinct
dxtinct antwortete auf WinPC-NC USB 2.50/02 not working.
Attached is my WinPC-NC sofware. I have bought the full USB version, but instead have a junk that does not do much..
Atached is my dxf file I cannot use..
any of the files I take from here www.craftsmanspace.com/free-patterns , requres magical intervention to be able to get to this WINpcNC software.

I am transforming DWG files taken from that site into R12 DXF's (Using Autocad 2015 LT )and every time i get only 2 issues :

- Eiter get an erorr and can't open the file
- Eiter I open the file and can't see nothing inside even if i zoom around 10 times in the files..

When it works is for the super simple DXF, i draw by hand and then import, for this it works.. but them are usesless.

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28 Jul 2015 12:32 #23849 von dxtinct
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and the dxf file

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28 Jul 2015 12:37 #23850 von dxtinct
dxtinct antwortete auf WinPC-NC USB 2.50/02 not working.
seems my dxf is too mig over 2mb and can't be uploaded.
Please try to make the DWG file attached and see if you maane to make this work with your stepcraft.

It's basically a easy file and small , but for me... this software does not what do what is intended to be doing..

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28 Jul 2015 13:23 #23854 von ThomasDbg
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Hm, first, try this one, please!

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28 Jul 2015 15:00 #23855 von dxtinct
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Hi Tomas.
Preety impressive your DIN file.
At least I can see something in the WinPC-NC software.

Could you help us by telling how you generated this DIN file ?

I have tryed as well with EstelCam but can't see the toolpath in the WinPC-NC software...

This is how the din file you send me was opened.. quite ok, few problems but at least still workable.

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28 Jul 2015 15:24 #23856 von ThomasDbg
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Okay, Little mistake, big Problem....

First, the multiple lines You see are in the dwg file. You have to "clean" it, ist is not accurately drawn.

Second, the fileformat "dxf" has changed through the years, in today´s dxf there are a lot of additional informations now, which WinPCNC (and also other programs) is not able to understand. You have to save Your work/ file in AUTOCAD 2000 file fomat, this is the fileformat, most of relevant available CAD programs do understand.

Then there should be no more Problem....

You see, there is no witch necessary to get results!

Regards and looking Forward to see Your first results!

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28 Jul 2015 15:34 #23858 von alpenkreuzer
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Conceding the provision of your Stepcraft directly from Stepcraft-Factory in Germany is combined with some unforeseen difficulties, we can imagine that you are upto now not very content with your software.

At first I will give you a link to the british homepage of Mr. Lewetz (who has programmed Win-PCNC)showing the possibility of downloading some useful mauals and informations: homepage of Lewetz .

Even the software WIN-PCNC is able to open dxf-files, it is only a very poor possibility. WIN-PCNC initially has been evaluated w/o this possibility and has only added it to the program end of last year. But this possibility will at least NOT replace the "normal" workflow with a CAM-program (EstlCam at least is such a program) to generate the toolpathes.

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28 Jul 2015 15:36 #23859 von alpenkreuzer
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Thomas,

just what I wanted to say following ... you were much quickier.

Michael

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28 Jul 2015 15:37 #23860 von dxtinct
dxtinct antwortete auf WinPC-NC USB 2.50/02 not working.
I'm preety sure R12 Dxf files are way more simple than Cad2000.

I have tryed with Cad 2000 as well and it did not work.
I will try again.
Thanks anywai for your support.

Do you know some function in Autocad so that I can reduce the number of points in a DXF file ?
I usually use explode, pedit, and then overkill but this time I could not make them automatically..

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28 Jul 2015 15:52 - 28 Jul 2015 15:57 #23862 von alpenkreuzer
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dxtinct schrieb: I'm preety sure R12 Dxf files are way more simple than Cad2000.


I have opened the dwg-file in QCAD; changed nothing and saved it as "Eye...dxf" using R12 version of dxf.

Then I opened the dxf-file in EstlCam version 8.026 - and got this:




No longer multiple lines.

Michael


after having defined your tollpathes with the resp. parameters you must save it in EstlCam under "CNC-Programm speichern, using the parameters for Win-PCNC --> Einstellungen --> CNC-Programm-Erzeugung. The result must be a file ending with "din".

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29 Jul 2015 12:44 #23902 von dxtinct
dxtinct antwortete auf WinPC-NC USB 2.50/02 not working.
Christian the rpogrammer of Estlcam has explained my problem for me !!

I will not use from now on WINpcNC except only for importing DIN files created from Estelcam.

Basically what was not working was DIN files generated with tool number inserted from number 7 , 8 , 9 etc.
I have deleted in Estlcam all tols and declared my tool on position 1, 2, 3 and then this worked like magic, even using this bad software WinPC-Nc.

not so bad software after all if it manage to see what I am saving from other softwares and is able to parse this to my Stepcraft 420. Yey :) Verry happy now !

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