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24 Mar 2015 20:49 - 24 Mar 2015 20:51 #17698 by Papje
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24 Mar 2015 21:16 - 24 Mar 2015 21:19 #17700 by Worldhusky
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Year - must be some kind of secret because .... no one told us that!!!! :evil:

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24 Mar 2015 21:30 #17701 by Papje
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Maybe not so fair from stepcraft to do it like this way

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24 Mar 2015 21:58 #17703 by MagIO2
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Wow .. it'll get full here in the forum.

What exactly do you mean by "not fair"? Do they have to ask for permission first? Is SC Inc. owned by SC or is it maybe some kind of franchise?

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24 Mar 2015 22:11 #17704 by Papje
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I mean, here on the forum the stepcraft 2 has been discussed a lot. For me it's strange that stepcraft started a kickstarter campaign before the die-hards stepcraft users here on the forum doesn't now anything about it. It's also odd that stepcraft introduces the new models on kickstarter before the Intermodellbau 2015! Come on, let's face it, it's strange!

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24 Mar 2015 22:24 - 24 Mar 2015 22:28 #17706 by Worldhusky
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MagIO2 wrote: Do they have to ask for permission first?

Certainly not and I really like to see on Kickstarter that they are already using pics from the German Forum (e.g. druckgott) for Advertising in the US. :whistle:

And they are asking for more pics without an offer for a copyright contract and - of course - no reimbursement.

And this 40 improvements on the SC1 which has lead to the SC2 - I'm sure that has nothing to do with this German Forum, right?

Yes - I agree with fgeer - that isn't fair play!

It's not only about tools it's also about skills! ;)
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24 Mar 2015 22:59 - 24 Mar 2015 23:01 #17709 by Worldhusky
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I just realized - we have to change the language or the Forum. ;) Maybe a Mod can move this thread to the English section?

It's not only about tools it's also about skills! ;)
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24 Mar 2015 23:27 #17710 by speedo
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Certainly not and I really like to see on Kickstarter that they are already using pics from the German Forum (e.g. druckgott) for Advertising in the US. :whistle:

Also das könnte man schon in die Kategorie Schindluder einordnen, auch wenn die Stepcraft GmbH & Co. KG davon vielleicht (noch) gar nichts weiß ...
Ich erinnere an den Beitrag von spur0 ...

Nun lässt sich die mehrfach beteuerte Aussage "Stepcraft liest im Forum mit" überprüfen.

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24 Mar 2015 23:46 #17712 by Worldhusky
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speedo wrote: Ich erinnere an den Beitrag von spur0 ...

Komisch - ich habe auch die ganze Zeit diesen von mir gestarten Beitrag (den ganzen!) und die Meinungen dazu im Kopf ... :whistle:

speedo wrote: Nun lässt sich die mehrfach beteuerte Aussage "Stepcraft liest im Forum mit" überprüfen.

Jetzt bin ich gespannt .... B)

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25 Mar 2015 10:45 #17722 by der_michel
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WTF ist Stepcraft doing? - Kickstart an existing Product?

This is for sure one of the most embarrassing ideas i have been seeing for a long time. I looked in the WhoIS for Stepcraft US and it is registered by Markus Wedel.

So what the hack they are doing? Kickstarter is not a WebShop, it is to pre-finance Ideas to convert an idea to a product. It is not an advertising and selling Plattform for existing Products.

Ridiculous just ridiculous ...

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25 Mar 2015 11:17 #17723 by MagIO2
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I guess this is the trick ... they finance V2 ... and they started kickstarter before official announcement of V2 on the fair.

And really ... if you have a look at other kickstarter projects, most of them show prototypes which do look too good to be build in a garage shop. I wonder if anybody would think about being a backer if you don't show something but only present your idea. Giving a timeline like ... 3 Month development time, outcome uncertain.

Actually the kickstarter campain will pre-finance the startup of a US based support team.

Yes, doubtfull, but ridiculous .. I don't know.

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25 Mar 2015 11:30 #17724 by der_michel
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Than my 840 V2 is a version the was shipped before the development was financed... :sick:

But this may explains the shortcomings of the 840 V2 :S

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25 Mar 2015 11:30 #17725 by Chatterhands Tochter
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He, wär ja schön wenn ihr einem Deutschen auch die Möglichkeit gebt diesen Thread zu verstehen.... :blink:


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25 Mar 2015 11:38 #17726 by der_michel
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@Chatterhand - dein Post ist wirklich lustig, musste basierend auf dem Post in Kombination mit Deinem Nickname herzlichst lachen.

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25 Mar 2015 11:40 #17727 by sswjs
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Moin,

Chatterhand wrote: He, wär ja schön wenn ihr einem Deutschen auch die Möglichkeit gebt diesen Thread zu verstehen.... :blink:

Willy, der Thread ist im falschen Forum gelandet, aber wenn du ihn trotzdem verstehen willst: Der Google Übersetzer . Mein Englisch ist nämlich auch "unterdurchschnittlich". :whistle:

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25 Mar 2015 13:10 #17729 by Andy.O
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Also der Kern des Ganzen ist, dass Stepcraft eine Kickstarter Kampagne gestartet hat um eine Vertriebsoffensive in den USA starten zu können.

In dem Kickstarterprojekt steht dass sie dazu Geld sammeln wollen um ausreichend Material dafür kaufen zu können.

Dort wird dann mit der SC V2 gestartet.

Was mich an der ganzen Sache nur ein wenig verstimmt ist, dass Sie schreiben, dass die Auslieferung in den USA im Juni (oder wars Juli? :whistle: ) starten soll, und hier in Deutschland wird man mit etwas schwammigen Aussagen (Frühjahr)bedient.

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25 Mar 2015 13:38 #17730 by MagIO2
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Da würde ich mal ganz optimistisch davon ausgehen, dass sie dann auf der Messe auch genügend Maschinchen dabei haben werden.
Aber man fährt ja mit Optimismus nicht immer richtig, aber bis es traurige Wahrheit wird doch wenigstens besser :lol:

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25 Mar 2015 14:13 #17731 by Mogul
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Hallo,
ich denke bei kickstarter präsentiert man ein neues Produkt aber warum hat dann Stepcraft hier das Bild einer alten SC1 reingestellt. Mustermaschinen in der Version 2 dürften doch schon vorhanden sein? :unsure: :unsure: :unsure:

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25 Mar 2015 18:30 #17753 by markus.wedel
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Dear user,

Last year we decided to establish sales, support and distribution in the U.S. To meet the requirements of the American customers, we needed to address several issues:

- Technical product adjustments for both hardware and software
- Addressing product liability risks
- Preparation of special documentation, eq. video support
- Establishing service and support
- etc.

We chose to place this project on Kickstarter to help launch this new market.

The market launch of Stepcraft-2 series to the European market will not be affected and will take place as planned in 2015.

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M. Wedel

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Liebe Nutzer,

im vergangenen Jahr haben wir uns dazu entschlossen Vertrieb, Service und Distribution in den USA aufzubauen.
Um die Anforderungen amerikanischer Kunden zu erfüllen sind verschiedene Sachverhalte umzusetzen und/oder zu prüfen:

- technische Produktanpassungen im Bereich Soft- und Hardware
- Klärung von Produkthaftungsrisiken
- Erstellung spezieller Dokumentationen, z.B. Video-Support
- Etablierung von Service & Support
- usw.

Dieses Projekt haben wir auf der Plattform Kickstarter platziert, um den Markteintritt zu erleichtern.

Die Einführung der Stepcraft-2 Serie für den europäischen Markt ist davon nicht betroffen und findet planmäßig im April 2015 statt.

Viele Grüße



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25 Mar 2015 23:09 #17769 by frankjoke
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Ich würde mich freuen wenn die Finanzspritze zu einem Laser-Gravur/Schneide-Kopf führen würde!
Der geht mir mehr ab als alle anderen Zusätze ...

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