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25 May 2017 18:44 #47605 by mikath
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The Z axis stoped turning suddenly.
My first thought was that any screw has loosened on the axel, but no.
I´m using UCCNC and when I "quick jog" shift+jog it turn for some reason.
Could it depend on any of the three cables that have gone off?

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25 May 2017 21:50 #47613 by mikath
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This is a video of what happening.



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28 May 2017 07:07 #47640 by mikath
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The motor has no power, and I can stop it with my fingers without any problems.

No one has any idea what it might be wrong ???

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28 May 2017 10:34 - 28 May 2017 10:40 #47645 by peterg1000
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Hi Mikath,

It looks very much as though only one of the two stepper coils is being driven. Three possibilities for this situstion :-

1) Fractured wire or loose connection in the wiring loom. (Most likely)

2) Open circuit winding inside stepper motor. (Not very likely - low resistance and thick wire)

3) Faulty stepper driver chip. (Unlikely for only one channel to fail - usually all or nothing)

Given that it is likely to be a fractured wire, I guess you will have hours of fun unwiring the gantry. :evil:

Peter

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Last edit: 28 May 2017 10:40 by peterg1000. Reason: spelling correction
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28 May 2017 14:24 #47650 by mikath
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Thanks for your reply.
Initially, I'll try to change the X or Y axis to Z to see that there is no error on the PCB.

My fear is to rewire the gantry... :(

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28 May 2017 14:33 #47651 by mikath
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One other thing I noticed is that the motor has a very high frequency of noise, the other motorss are completely silent.

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28 May 2017 21:16 #47667 by mikath
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Now I have changed the X motor to Z on the PCB and it work like a charm.
I think it´s a fractured wire.

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28 May 2017 21:42 #47669 by peterg1000
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Hi Mika,

Glad you've probably found the problem.

Don't envy you having to unwire the gantry to find the culprit. Good luck!

Peter.

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31 May 2017 15:29 #47757 by mikath
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I cut the cables and replaced with new ones and now all the axis work.
It does not look so nice at the moment, but I can fix it when I have new parts.

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