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17 Nov 2014 17:01 #10643 by heustec
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Hi everyone,

Today i've been milling sonme 18mm solid Oak.

I am using dremel milling bits 561, they are much longer than the normal cutters, almost too long, they snap easily if you try to go too fast and deep. I was milling at 1.5mm depth at 8mm/second feed, you really have to decrease the depth if it looks like its rubbing not the speed. I snapped a tool at 2mm depth and 5mm/second feed due to rubbing.

Great results though, am very happy with the finished product. I dont think i would go any deeper than 22mm.


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17 Nov 2014 18:20 - 17 Nov 2014 18:21 #10646 by Rory
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Looks great! Nice finish. this really is the top end of what the proxxon/dremel can achieve.

the HF spindle (or other) with larger cutters can allow you to go deeper - but be careful - larger diameter cutters remove more material - the over all material removal rate increases - which has a knock on effect on the cutting force.

Equivalent depth in a 6mm cutter requires more force from the machine frame than a 3mm cutter.
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24 May 2015 17:55 - 24 May 2015 18:01 #21234 by woodendonkey
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A little follow up to this, confirming Rory's comment.

I was cutting with HF350, 5mm 2-flute bit, 2mm pass depth, in Meranti (Phillipines Mahogany) profiling through 12mm thick material. No problems. (Also cut lots of 12mm Birch Ply like this, never had a problem).
When I did the same cut (same toolpath, bits, speeds & feeds) in 12mm Oak it got to about 8mm deep then BAM! - crashed and gouged a big pit. You really need to take account of material density/hardness - one "hardwood" is not the same as another!

The profile was after 30 minutes of V-carving - job wasted. Did it again (in Oak) and did the profile cut out with 4mm straight bit, 1.5mm passes. I'm partially deaf (can't hear the top 2/3 of human speech range at normal volumes) but I could hear this screaming through the Oak (900mm/min feed rate) - it made the cut OK but sounded a bit stressed! I had the Steppi vacuum attachment running, with the brush enclosure - when the job was finished I found it was packed solid with chips/dust; I suspect this was the source of the noise rather than the wood cut.
As well as the Steppi dust extractor, I find I need to follow the spindle with a shop vac when using these larger bits - first time with the 4mm straight bit and it doesn't clear chips at all well!



Like Heustec I was needing longer bits, but opted for larger diameter to try to avoid "wobble" as the bit goes deeper.

I think next time I will go back to the 5mm 2-flute, but reduce to 1mm pass depth for cuts beyond about 5mm.

Donald

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31 May 2015 13:49 #21763 by woodendonkey
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Follow up: cutting 12mm with 5mm bit, 1.5mm pass, 900mm/min feed - crashed twice (at about 9.5mm deep), once at 20,000 rpm (HF350) and then again at 16,000rpm (tried to get more power with reduced speed). Second crash damaged the workpiece too badly to be worth continuing - I'm going to try one of those Dremel 561 bits. I think 5mm diameter in Oak is too much for any sort of depth.

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01 Jul 2015 10:14 #22847 by heustec
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I have been cutting some 22mm Oak recently without an issue, I use a 8mm ball nose to cove the edges 4mm which allows me to cut the Oak as if it was 18mm (required for cutter length -3mm 3 flute). Working a treat!

Pushing the stepcraft hard though but new Kress is an absolutely brilliant upgrade.

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