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31 Dec 2015 11:53 #28790 by sjorzzzie

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If i set my artwork in CUT2D and set all preferences (Dept of various toolpaths, drilling toolpaths, inlay toolpaths) in one design and export it (WinPC-NC ATC Arcs MM *.nc) to WINPC-NC does it import all depth/heights of the toolpaths? Or do i need to set the layers again with depth and speed (like the starter brochure explains in WINPX_NC)?

I hope you get my question.

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03 Jan 2016 12:53 #28880 by jvalencia

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Yes it does. The .NC file has all the code needed to cut your toolpath as you defined it.

Stepcraft 2 840
Kress 800 FME
UCCNC + UC100
V-Carve + QCad

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07 Jan 2016 18:11 #28999 by sjorzzzie

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I cant get it to load in WINPC-NC. On open it says: ERROR Data cannot be displayed. Attached my files. Hope you or someone else can help.

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07 Jan 2016 18:51 #29003 by Christian Knüll

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Hi,

do you use the "starter" version of WinPC-NC?
In this case: it cannot open .nc files ("g-code") but requires .plt (HPGL) instead.

Christian

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07 Jan 2016 19:41 #29005 by sjorzzzie

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Hi Christian,

I only have a .NC file for WinPC-NC.
Wich do you use?

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07 Jan 2016 20:55 #29007 by sjorzzzie

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So i used "Generic HPGL Arcs (mm) (*.plt) but is only exports one cut layer and has a weird starting point. I use WinPC-NC Starter

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07 Jan 2016 23:04 #29014 by MagIO2

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Starter only allows 2 layers. Two layers means the first 2 tools in EstlCAM. The layers can be en-/disabled with the small numbers below the menu bar.

The starting point can be changed somewhere in the WinPC settings.

SC 420 mit DIY parallel + ~~Proxxon mit Mod~~ + HF500 + SprintLayout + LibreCAD/QCAD + FreeCAD +~~WinPC starter/USB~~->EstlCAM + EstlCAM LPTAdapter + EstlCAM Handrad + DIY Vakuumtisch

Gruß, Andreas

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08 Jan 2016 08:23 #29015 by sjorzzzie

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Thank you. I didn't understand that before installing. What should i use/buy? Im not so technical but want to export and use more then two layers. I allraid bought cut 2d (basic).

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08 Jan 2016 09:31 #29018 by peterg1000

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You can upgrade from Cut2D to VCarve according to the Vectric website

SC 420/2, Industrial VFD spindle from StoneyCNC
UC100 + UCCNC
Cut2D, Autosketch10, Draftsight, Eagle 9.5.1

There is no problem, however simple, that cannot be made more complicated by thinking about it.

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08 Jan 2016 10:18 #29019 by sjorzzzie

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But then i still have the problem that WinPC-NC starter only imports 2 layers, right?

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08 Jan 2016 10:24 #29020 by Christian Knüll

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Hi,

the limiting factor in this case is WinPC-NC.
You either need to upgrade WinPC-NC or use a different control software altogether.
(By the way Estlcam has a built in CNC controller - it just requires an Arduino UNO.)

Christian

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08 Jan 2016 10:29 #29021 by sjorzzzie

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Hi chris,

Thanks. I think the cheapest and easy way is to upgrade winPC-NC right?
Which should i use:

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08 Jan 2016 11:30 - 08 Jan 2016 11:40 #29022 by peterg1000

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Hi

If it were my choice I would go with UCCNC every time. This accepts standard Gcode commands as well as DXF files

Easy to learn, use and configure, and uses a USB to parallel converter "dongle" that does all the high speed control wizardry. This relieves the host PC/Laptop of a huge processing load so you can use a very low spec machine. I personally use an old refurbished Dell 610 running XP professional just to run my SC 420/2 - I was therefore able to strip out a lot of unnecessary software to make it as bomb proof as possible.

I have no connection to this software other than being a satisfied user.

Peter

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08 Jan 2016 15:44 #29028 by MagIO2

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Well ... the argument with the USB 2 parallel does not really count, because that's exactly what the WinPC USB board is doing as well ... same is true for EstlCAMs Arduino board.

I use EstlCAM + Arduino with an old Netbook.

Prices:
WinPC update 200€ + EstlCAM 35€
EstlCAM 35€ + Arduino 35€
UCCNC + UCCNC USB board ?

SC 420 mit DIY parallel + ~~Proxxon mit Mod~~ + HF500 + SprintLayout + LibreCAD/QCAD + FreeCAD +~~WinPC starter/USB~~->EstlCAM + EstlCAM LPTAdapter + EstlCAM Handrad + DIY Vakuumtisch

Gruß, Andreas

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08 Jan 2016 16:13 #29029 by peterg1000

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In June last year UCCNC + UC100 USB controller cost me £75, with the parallel card costing £10 - a total of about 115 Euros. To that must be added the dreaded VAT at 20% in UK!!

Total 138 Euros or thereabouts.

Peter

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09 Jan 2016 10:44 - 09 Jan 2016 10:50 #29042 by sjorzzzie

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Is there a good guide how to use uccnc with stepcraft? And which export file do I need to use in cut2d?

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09 Jan 2016 11:23 #29043 by peterg1000

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Hi

Use the .DXF output format - this imports straight into UCCNC.

The basic UCCNC software can be downloaded for free and run in simulation mode. The UC100 controller comes with a license file which is recognised by UCCNC and sets up communication with the controller. All the basic operations are very obvious on the opening screen and these will be common to most small CNC machines.

What makes it special to the Stepcraft is the configuration file which defines mechanical and electrical parameters such as steps/unit(mm), maximum stepping speed, acceleration, soft limits etc.

Almost all the information you may need is on the UCCNC website .

Peter

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09 Jan 2016 11:34 #29044 by sjorzzzie

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Thank you all. I will try that

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11 Jan 2016 15:58 #29120 by apcnc

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thist could be interesting for you: stoneycnc.co.uk/stepcraft-cnc-videos/

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24 Jan 2016 22:38 #29648 by maclion

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If I disconnect the Stepcraft from my computer and then start Win PC NC Starter, I CAN load *.nc files from Cut2D into WinPC-NC. But then the application operates in the demo mode and won't conect to the router on plugging in the router cable afterwards. In short: Win PC NC CAN read *.nc data but the Starter version lacks the licence to do so when connected to the Stepcraft.
The Cut2D manual states that some routers can directly be driven from Cut2D IF the right driver is present on the PC.
I have not yet tried to do so on my machine.

Martin

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